Two weeks ago, I felt the Romanians were going to pass the Tate brothers on to the US very quickly. Romania is a poor country. Why should it undergo the scrutiny and expense of a trial?
Well, obviously, that expense is easy to endure if it is reimbursed, either in cash or from “in kind” favors to the Romanian government, which is equivalent to saying “in the hands of corrupt bureaucrats.” As to the scrutiny, well, the Global Ruling Elite control the media as well.
Looking back, I realize that a country whose population was born into Communism, dictatorship, and corruption would not naturally feel any kinship with concepts like free speech, free agency, fairness, or being innocent until proven guilty. I was a fool to think their sort of prosecution would feel burdened.
However, here is a paragraph from a post I wrote early on:
I think the threat of a rape charge exists mainly to incite further public anger against Tate while he is incarcerated and “investigated.” I believe that when Tate is eventually tried, the charges will be things the public understands only vaguely, like tax evasion and money laundering. I really think the Romanians will hold the Tates for a few weeks, announce that their investigations are inconclusive, and then send the brothers to their American homeland to face bogus charges there.
As of now, I have a slightly different assessment of things, thanks to new information, especially the voices of Romanians I have encountered in online comment sections on YouTube videos.
New views on what is happening. I can see now that the Romanians and the intermediaries to our Global Ruling Elites (probably the US and the UK) have actually developed a win-win situation for themselves in their assault on Andrew Tate. Why take the Tates through extradition? In the US, there could be public protests in the way of demonstrations. Pesky online influencers could interfere with the script the mainstream media reads to us. Well, none of that is a worry in Romania.
It looks as though the Romanians will keep the Tate brothers in their present state of incarceration for much longer, perhaps even the whole six months available to the prosecutor. Yes, he will need to ask the judge to grant this continuation in thirty-day increments, and theoretically he has to show additional evidence each time he asks for an extension, but that means very little. It is Romania. [UPDATE: It turned out that when the prosecutor asked for the extension for the month of February, he did NOT offer new evidence. He just said that the Tates were a flight risk, which is ridiculous. But hell, it is Romania. Romanians seem to think Andrew Tate has supernatural powers when it comes to women. Maybe they think he can transport himself with flue powder, as well.]
In Romania’s eyes, there is little downside to keeping Andrew Tate in this position: yes, it gives his attorneys time to work and locate witnesses for the defense, and the Tate brothers still get some access to the outside world, including sixty minutes of telephone calls each day. But the Tate attorneys have serious trouble locating witnesses and building a case: they are not allowed to see any of the Prosecutor’s evidence file.
But the advantages of this form of imprisonment for the Prosecution far outweigh the disadvantages. If the brothers are still in a cell together, the cell is certainly bugged (in more ways than one). No one gets to photograph the Tates, and they cannot make videos. The women arrested with them are likewise incarcerated, which gives them time to think about shortening their misery by testifying against the brothers. And those hours of phone calls enable mistakes on the part of the Tates. Tristan, for example, blundered in a Tweet yesterday, complaining that Christians aren’t giving him all the attention he wants.
Instead of calling the other men in their wolf pack to file their Tweets, the Tates really should be calling a first-rate public relations firm to represent them, if they can find one that will take them as clients at this point. They need vocal public support. Without it, they will be forgotten by summer.
The Bucharest “Logic Loop.” It also appears that the chief prosecutor running the case against Andrew Tate is a national hero in Romania. The man on the street in Bucharest believes that this prosecutor, Rares Petru Stan, cannot be wrong. He has put away so many organized crime figures that he himself has to have a 24-hour-a-day security team, or so the urban legend goes in Bucharest. If HE is prosecuting the Tates, the man on the street in Bucharest believes, the Tates must be criminals. “But don’t worry,” Romanians say, “Our hero will release them if they are innocent–of course, we Romanians already know the Tates are guilty, or our Prosecutor would not have locked them up.” And so the Bucharest “logic loop” runs.
Well, all the Romanian assets of both Tate brothers have now been seized (that is, stolen): real estate (at least ten properties), luxury vehicles (both Andrew’s racing cars and other vehicles), bank accounts, cash, a Bitcoin wallet, electronic devices, guns, watch collections, miscellaneous weaponry, gold bars, and personal items. An estimated $100 million. Somewhere in Romania, a crooked bureaucrat is driving a Tate Ferrari. His wife is fingering a watch, imagining how the diamonds can be reset for her. His son is wearing Top G’s briefs and black tee-shirts to his university classes. His daughter has a new laptop.
Because the money in Andrew’s and Tristan’s bank accounts has been stolen, they cannot pay their attorneys with Romanian currency. And although home arrest (with ankle bracelets) is technically one of the options available each time the thirty-day detention orders are renewed, they now have no homes, so that cannot be considered. Where are Andrew and Tristan’s families living, by the way? Andrew has kept his children and their mothers safely out of the public eye, but apparently, they do exist. I hope they were not in Romania.
[Another update: At least some of the family members were in Romania. And now the corrupt and ever-so-greedy Romanians are trying to get the government of Dubai to send them Andrew’s Bugatti.]
This is a continuation of what happened after the Great Banishment, when Andrew Tate’s English bank accounts were taken. The financial losses have to be hurting Andrew, but that is not the worst of it. Now, to pay the attorneys’ fees and expenses incurred mounting a defense at trial, the Tates must access funds from outside Romania, and that process will be tracked, and it will lead various governments to other resources and ultimately result in additional seizures (in plain English, “thefts”).
Clearly, the Tates are not going to be set free. The public has been offered two possible explanations for the theft of their assets: the money is needed to fund the investigation, or the money will be used to compensate the victims. No civilized nation permits stealing from someone in order to figure out a way to convict that person of a crime, until and unless the Tates are proven guilty of something, there are no victims.
See how this works? It’s part of the beauty of putting your hands up the asses of Romanian hand puppets. Romania is able to act in ways that the US, for example, wouldn’t dare. The Romanians get to divvy up the spoils from robbing the Tates, and the US government keeps its hands clean, or relatively so, considering where the hands have been. And are.
Justice, Romanian style. Another part of this travesty of justice is the quaint collection of laws and legal notions they have in Romania. Romanians, especially the Romanian press, say that Andrew Tate has already confessed, through online videos, to the major crimes. Like all public figures, Andrew Tate’s online persona is not the actual Andrew Tate. More than other public figures, there are variations and nuances in videos featuring Andrew Tate for the following reasons:
- Andrew Tate has been the most Googled man on Earth for a year, making him the focus of many hundreds of people trying to increase their view counts and cash intakes on social media. New videos are being assembled from old clips everyday, and with every rehash comes new distortions enabled by the missing context of the source video.
- Andrew Tate video available online is in some cases ten years old. Andrew has tried out a raft of messages and images in that decade.
- Andrew Tate is a native speaker of English, a language which has many words and is spoken across the world in many different dialects.
- Andrew Tate is highly intelligent, and he understands the importance of using precise wording. He has a broad vocabulary which includes early life exposure to both American English and British English. He uses words he has adopted both through study and life experience.
- Tate uses plenty of unfiltered street jargon, and his travel and business experience have acquainted him with English as spoken in other cultures.
- When non-native speakers of English listen to him (or read in translation something he has said), there is abundant opportunity for serious misunderstanding or mistranslation.
- Even among people from the same culture who speak the same language and dialect, individuals perceive and process irony, humor, and unfamiliar terms in different ways, depending on factors such as intelligence, education, and personal biases.
In short, video clips of online podcasts or even interview segments is highly problematic. Yet Romanians think a character or characters that Tate developed in any point of his online career is proof of, well, whatever they want to believe it proves.
Lover Boy Law. Romania’s “Lover Boy Law” has been broken, you see, so that is the same thing as human trafficking, so he is guilty of one of the most heinous crimes the have imagined. The Lover Boy Law amounts to this: any attractive man who makes love to a woman is a human trafficker if she can be identified and labeled “victim” by a Romanian prosecutor. The law, as developed in Romania, was used to convict Mafioso who pretended to love women and then forced them into prostitution.
Shit, I would say that Andrew Tate easily has what it takes to make a woman fall in love with him: awesome body, fascinating conversation, plenty of money. But I cannot fathom how that automatically makes him a human trafficker. Did he force women who thought he loved them into prostitution? For that matter, did he force them to do anything?
The charge is apparently based, in part, on the fact that there were women residing in Andrew’s house or houses he owns. (Well, “owned” before they were stolen.) Shocking! Women in a rich man’s house! Do the Romanians arrest every rich man who has women in his house?
The women in question had cell phones, so they could have called authorities or their families and friends if they felt the least bit uncomfortable. They went freely in and out of the house to go shopping and dine out. They ordered food sent in, and on at least one occasion, they went to meet a pizza delivery man. They had no guards and were known to be in the house when Tate was not there. All this can be seen on the security camera footage from the residence. [UPDATE: Not only is this CCTV footage not in the evidence file, but it is now said to have been destroyed.]
But Andrew Tate is a big sexy hunk of a man, so he must have cast a spell on these women!
Curiously, the Romanians appear to agree with Andrew Tate’s online persona: women can neither think nor defend themselves. As Tate’s lawyer, Eugen Vidineac puts it, we are asked to believe that “all six of these women had their brains washed?” [UPDATE: A Romanian judge has ruled that two of them, who insist they are not victims, are “brainwashed.”] This law is so paternalistic that, had it not ensnared the King of Toxic Masculinity, Feminists would fight for its repeal. But then, I doubt there are any Feminists in Romania.
Back to the (gullible) man on the street in Bucharest. Yes, the average Romanian appears to find this law, which patronizes the female sex, reasonable. Yes, they believe that the Tates are criminals. Yes, their hero is Chief Prosecutor Rares Petru Stan. Yes, they are gullible enough to think the online Andrew Tate, the King of Toxic Masculinity, is the man they have locked in a cell.
Allow me to provide an illustration of the level of gullibility we have encountered. When the Romanian YT commenter told me that the Tates got sixty minutes of telephone time each day, I responded that I hoped they had a chance to talk with their mother regularly, that she must be frightened. The Romanian’s response was that Andrew and Tristan’s mother doesn’t want to talk with them: Romanian television had just announced that both Eileen Tate and Tate’s sister had blocked Andrew on Facebook!
Seriously? How does anyone know who someone else has blocked on Facebook? Andrew Tate has not had a Facebook account for at least six months–not since The Great Banishment of August 2022. By both Andrew’s and Tristan’s comments, Janine and her brothers have not spoken to each other in years anyway. It’s not likely they were “Facebook friends” at any point. However, that is what Romanian television “reports.”
Furthermore, I have been in comment exchanges with Romanians who have said that the Tates were not arrested, they are only “detained” in a cell they cannot leave. I have also been informed that the Tate brothers are not in “jail” and have not been “imprisoned.” These terms are inappropriate, Romanians say, because the Tates and two women are only being detained, that’s all, at a detention center.
I wanted to scream back: “Don’t mess with me on the English language: I am a native speaker of American English, I have two university degrees in English Language and Literature, and I was a teacher of the English language for decades. I know what English words mean. When you are detained against your will, you are imprisoned. Your cell is a jail. When you are taken from your home against your will by uniformed police, you are arrested.
Euphemism does not conceal fact. Most often, it highlights it.
But just when I thought I had heard it all, I was told how nice the police officers were to the four people who were not arrested, but only “detained.” They were never, I am told, even handcuffed. Here I am, stupidly believing my own lying eyes. What were those shiny metal things encircling Andrew’s powerful hands?
Well, that’s how the Romanians see things. Don’t look for a huge public rally of supporters to be standing outside Andrew’s cell window, shouting, “Free Top G!”
Cyclonejane
January 14, 2023
Conundrum Andrew Tate 